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when that happens usually materials and energies are weaker. that's what's happening today. there's been some collateral damage with other stocks that are suppliers to hp. advanced micromoved down on that news. that's a new three-year low for advanced micro. >> i'm looking for the silver lining. >> we've been moving up for several days in a row right now and are approaching the highs we had a week and a half ago. >> we'll be following jon fortt and bob pisani. ty, back to you. >>> let's drill down on some of the economic issues that are going to come up in tonight's presidential debate. a positive read on jobs ahead of friday's employment report. on the other hand, a bit of a red flag being raised in housing. steve leisman and diana olick are all over the data points. steve, the latest jobs data, is it changing in any way the expectations for this friday's employment report? >> not a lot. economists would like to go from the adp data to higher estimates but it's not been that great over the past couple months. there's a lot of of caution out there among wall street economist
when that happens usually materials and energies are weaker. that's what's happening today. there's been some collateral damage with other stocks that are suppliers to hp. advanced micromoved down on that news. that's a new three-year low for advanced micro. >> i'm looking for the silver lining. >> we've been moving up for several days in a row right now and are approaching the highs we had a week and a half ago. >> we'll be following jon fortt and bob pisani. ty, back to you....
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their boys in new york are saying two macro fonts are lightening up on the energy exposure coming into this it first week of the month. whether or not that's the case, we sat down on the our trade desk this morning, we saw the market start breaking 90. gathered momentum and made a bee line for our first band of support around 89. we're not getting much of a bounce. you may want to cover those positions. the technicals, spr is way off the table. and it seems to be a little delevering. and i think that's what's pressing the market here. >> anthony, let's get your trade on this. >> i'm looking at we're still a very range bund market and even though the china data was soft, you have to look at stimulus from china coming out of the market. so unless we break out of this range, i'm still going to play the range. so i'm looking to get long. november crude oil around 88 of this. i want to put an $87 stop in because that would be below all my support levels. and at that point, we could move a lot lower to $80. but i don't think that's going to happen so i'll be long at 88 1/2 and looking to get
their boys in new york are saying two macro fonts are lightening up on the energy exposure coming into this it first week of the month. whether or not that's the case, we sat down on the our trade desk this morning, we saw the market start breaking 90. gathered momentum and made a bee line for our first band of support around 89. we're not getting much of a bounce. you may want to cover those positions. the technicals, spr is way off the table. and it seems to be a little delevering. and i...
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one is for a clean, wedomestic energy future that puts us in control. our abundant natural gas is already saving us money, producing cleaner electricity, putting us to work here in america and supporting wind and solar. though all energy development comes with some risk, we're committed to safely and responsibly producing natural gas. it's not a dream. america's natural gas... putting us in control of our energy future, now. thank you, mr. speaker, uh, members of congress. in celebration of over 75 years of our government employees insurance company, or geico...as most of you know it. ...i propose savings for everyone! i'm talking hundreds here... and furthermore.. newcaster: breaking news. the gecko is demanding free pudding. and political parties that are actual parties! with cake! and presents! ah, that was good. too bad nobody could hear me. geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. >>> tonight, a story you will not see anywhere else. >>> tonight, a story you will not see anywhere else. for the first time, cnn's
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bottom five today shows how weak energy was. down a percent as a group today. materials also lower. i want to show you this chart. this is from spoke investment group. since the market peaked in mid-september, they took a look at market trading in the s&p on an hour-by-hour basis. this is a typical trading chart since mid-september on a daily basis. we've had a little stutter step in the morning. then you get a small rally, sideways action, then the real selloff comes in the hour. their conclusion is that the so-called smart money, the hedge funds, private equity and so forth is where this is coming in and selling at end whereas the so-called, pardon the expression, dumb money has been coming in in the morning. warren myers, do you buy that notion? do you see that trade flow here at the new york stock exchange. >> we do see that to a bit. i would equate that to what's happening in europe. the global impact is so great that we watch the opening here. europe is still active. we follow them. if they happen to be up, we follow them. once europe closes, the only thing we have to be conce
bottom five today shows how weak energy was. down a percent as a group today. materials also lower. i want to show you this chart. this is from spoke investment group. since the market peaked in mid-september, they took a look at market trading in the s&p on an hour-by-hour basis. this is a typical trading chart since mid-september on a daily basis. we've had a little stutter step in the morning. then you get a small rally, sideways action, then the real selloff comes in the hour. their...
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there is a lot of specificity on proposals on energy, the keystone pipeline issue and regulation and make sure we stop the huge growth of regulations and entitlements. he has been very specific. i think his tax program is pro growth. there is a lot of specificity and people look at it. it is the kind of thing the economy needs right now and that is what basic economics tells me. >> bernanke has sited your work as a big influence on current monetary policy yet mr. romney has said ben bernanke should be fired. are you advising that ben bernanke should get fired? >> i don't get into personnel issues. i would say on quoting different rules i think quantitative easing has not been helpful. i think we had good monetary policy in the '80s and '90s until recently. that is what we want to do. that is what the romney program is all about. >> john, i'm curious. there is a lot of talk about the evans rule and it is not quite the same as the taylor rule but it seems to go a way towards some of the things you have talked about in the past predominantly this idea of having more of a check on possib
there is a lot of specificity on proposals on energy, the keystone pipeline issue and regulation and make sure we stop the huge growth of regulations and entitlements. he has been very specific. i think his tax program is pro growth. there is a lot of specificity and people look at it. it is the kind of thing the economy needs right now and that is what basic economics tells me. >> bernanke has sited your work as a big influence on current monetary policy yet mr. romney has said ben...
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putting us in control of our energy future, now. and the candidate's speech is in pieces all over the district. the writer's desktop and the coordinator's phone are working on a joke with local color. the secure cloud just received a revised intro from the strategist's tablet. and while i make my way into the venue, the candidate will be rehearsing off of his phone. [ candidate ] and thanks to every young face i see out there. [ woman ] his phone is one of his biggest supporters. [ female announcer ] with cisco at the center... working together has never worked so well. anyone have occasional constipation, diarrhea, gas, bloating? yeah. one phillips' colon health probiotic cap each day helps defend against these digestive issues with three strains of good bacteria. approved! [ female announcer ] live the regular life. phillips'. >>> with just 34 days to go until the elections and the presidential debate hours away, we're taking a very in depth look all week long at latinos in america, which is a key voting bloc in this election. thi
putting us in control of our energy future, now. and the candidate's speech is in pieces all over the district. the writer's desktop and the coordinator's phone are working on a joke with local color. the secure cloud just received a revised intro from the strategist's tablet. and while i make my way into the venue, the candidate will be rehearsing off of his phone. [ candidate ] and thanks to every young face i see out there. [ woman ] his phone is one of his biggest supporters. [ female...
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domestic, abundant, clean energy to power our lives... that's smarter power today. > susan hendricks back with the "360" news and business bulletin. >>> another deadly day in syria. an opposition group says at least 150 people have been killed in violence throughout the country today. an opposition spokesman said no syrian is willing to sit down with the killers of the syrian government who have been responsible for every drop of blood that has been shed. that was in response to syria's foreign minister calling for a dialogue at the u.n. general assembly yesterday. >>> a border patrol agent was shot and killed today in arizona. the 30-year-old was shot after responding to a sensor that went off near the border. another agent was wounded. the fbi and local police are investigating the shooting. >>> new york's attorney general says more lawsuits against big banks are on the way as a task force investigates the crash of 2008. the first suit filed is against jpmorgan chase over allegations that bear stearns which it owns committed fraud again
domestic, abundant, clean energy to power our lives... that's smarter power today. > susan hendricks back with the "360" news and business bulletin. >>> another deadly day in syria. an opposition group says at least 150 people have been killed in violence throughout the country today. an opposition spokesman said no syrian is willing to sit down with the killers of the syrian government who have been responsible for every drop of blood that has been shed. that was in...
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one is for a clean, wedomestic energy future that puts us in control. our abundant natural gas is already saving us money, producing cleaner electricity, putting us to work here in america and supporting wind and solar. though all energy development comes with some risk, we're committed to safely and responsibly producing natural gas. it's not a dream. america's natural gas... putting us in control of our energy future, now. >>> welcome back, everybody. the economy obviously front and center this week with the jobs report coming out on friday. our guest host this morning runs a company that has several economic indicators all rolled into one. joining us for the remainder of the show with his take on the markets and what's happening in corporate america is jim tisch, and jim, it's great to have you here onset. we were just talking about how you have a lot of different things that really give you a good idea of what's happening in the economy. diamond offshore, what's happening from an energy perspective, you have the luxury hotels there, the insurance li
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prices and energy really is the story in the commodities market today. look at the $3 slide in crude oil and a lot has to do with the demand outlook. traders are focused on what is coming out of asia. news about china's pmi services data was weak then expected, but really it's what the asian development bank had to say about emerging asian nations and the gdp growth forecast that they have for them. they rationed down their expectations for 2012 and 2013. this is supposed to be the engine of growth, the engine of demand for crude oil and for other industrial commodities. if it's not there, what's going to happen, we'll see perhaps an even further slide here in oil prices. we also got data from the u.s. energy department and that also was a bit of a surprise in terms of the supply side. but in terms of demand, continuing to see anemic demand in terms of gasoline demand, down 2.5% versus a year ago. and this is already as we're getting the slide to the winter grade of gasoline. so since that rollover, we have seen a steady slide in gasoline futures. the on
prices and energy really is the story in the commodities market today. look at the $3 slide in crude oil and a lot has to do with the demand outlook. traders are focused on what is coming out of asia. news about china's pmi services data was weak then expected, but really it's what the asian development bank had to say about emerging asian nations and the gdp growth forecast that they have for them. they rationed down their expectations for 2012 and 2013. this is supposed to be the engine of...
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but energy as well. so to the extent that there is an industrial boom in places like india or china, the whole energy complex will continue to appreciate. >> what we've been hearing from china -- >> china is a big question. china's a big question mark. people need to eat. they don't necessarily need to build new factories. >> and they don't necessarily need to consume as much copper. >> we like copper but we're nimble with our copper allocation. not having too much risk allocated to any part of the commodity complex. one these we aren't complicity with is gold. we trity and avoid just lookingt go gold. >> a number of cogent arguments that have been made in some of the presentations we've heard seem to argue for rates have to go up. they've got to go up. how are you positioned for that? or are you perhaps not a believer in terms of where the treasury's headed in the future? >> david, great question. we think that rates have a long term downward pressure for two reasons. one, the central bank has anchored
but energy as well. so to the extent that there is an industrial boom in places like india or china, the whole energy complex will continue to appreciate. >> what we've been hearing from china -- >> china is a big question. china's a big question mark. people need to eat. they don't necessarily need to build new factories. >> and they don't necessarily need to consume as much copper. >> we like copper but we're nimble with our copper allocation. not having too much risk...
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growing faster providing investors some encouragement so the gains have been held in check by an slump in energy stocks, taking a live look at the big board the dow currently up two, nasdac up 10 and s & p up three. >>> tensions were hyatt last nights oakland city council meeting as people gathered to have their voices heard about a deadly police shooting. >> can you remove those folks who are still standing and refuse to take their seat? >> protesters shouted down council president larry reed. they say the police shooting of 18-year-old allen blueford back in may was unwarranted and unjust it tied. blueford's mother demanded the police report on the shooting. councilman reed eventually gave his copy of the police record to the blueford family, but the family says that report still lives many unanswered questions. oakland police have maintained that blueford pointed a gun at an officer. >>> the oakland police department is responding to the murders by offering people the option to text crime tips to police anonymously. it's part of a new program called nixel tip watch. we'll learn more about whe
growing faster providing investors some encouragement so the gains have been held in check by an slump in energy stocks, taking a live look at the big board the dow currently up two, nasdac up 10 and s & p up three. >>> tensions were hyatt last nights oakland city council meeting as people gathered to have their voices heard about a deadly police shooting. >> can you remove those folks who are still standing and refuse to take their seat? >> protesters shouted down...
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pink lemonade 5-hour energy? yeah and a portion of every sale goes to the avon foundation for women breast cancer crusade. i'm sold. new pink lemonade 5-hour energy. get the alert, energized feeling you need and support breast cancer research and access to care. [ female announcer ]ome people like to pretend a flood could never happen to them. and that their homeowners insurance protects them. [ thunder crashes ] it doesn't. stop pretending. only flood insurance covers floods. ♪ visit floodsmart.gov/pretend to learn your risk. connell: it's back to nicole for stocks now and every 15 minutes. going to talk about monsanto and their earnings. nicole: we are looking at monsanto very closely. the numbers they posted for the quarter which were basically a loss again. the stock is trading down 1.3%. the world's largest seed company. and sales of corn seeds dropped 12%. cotton sales were also off. they did well with soybeans and vegetable seed sales. the big picture did post a fourth quarter quarterly loss. as a result
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. >> 1.4 million republicans in the primary -- to put a lot of energy into that. why shouldn't they have the same energy and exposure side-by-side with you and mr. sadler as before the primary? >> we are debating here today. we will debate in a couple of weeks. in the meantime, i am on the road in a different city between just about every day between now and election day. >> but why can not we have another debate? why not the one in houston? what are you afraid of? >> i am focusing on supporting our campaign. that is what we're doing. i'm listening to the voters of campaign -- tx. >> you can build the support in a debate. >> we agree to this one. look -- i understand you are working very hard to get media coverage. it is not our obligation to help you in that. you can go convey your message to texas voters. i am conveying mine. >> is your obligation to face the voters of texas. >> i am doing that. >> as you said, state by tv, is the critical point. you have had the opportunity. even for the tea party debate, which she would not do. why what he faced me now? >> we
. >> 1.4 million republicans in the primary -- to put a lot of energy into that. why shouldn't they have the same energy and exposure side-by-side with you and mr. sadler as before the primary? >> we are debating here today. we will debate in a couple of weeks. in the meantime, i am on the road in a different city between just about every day between now and election day. >> but why can not we have another debate? why not the one in houston? what are you afraid of? >> i...
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it is presented by kron 4 energy. it will be on saturday october 6th. this weekend will be a busy week with fleet week. the usual event like the flyovers and there are some new yvette's. also all the bay area will host a the race. there is more than giants are back in town and they will be plane on saturday and sunday. also on sunday the 49ers are home and they will host the buffalo bills. even the calls will be watching. this is the bluegrass festival at golden gate park and a lot of people will be here this is from friday through sunday. the castro street fair is also going on and the italian heritage event. it will be a crazy weekend in san francisco. do not say that there is nothing to do. if you do not like crile's then you could just stay at home and watch it on kron 4. justic your car in the and just watch our special at 6:00 p.m.. >>still ahead dairy cows in switzerland are able to send text messages to their owners. we will tell you about this technology coming up later. @ñ >> we are back. the swi dairy cowls can now text their owners when the
it is presented by kron 4 energy. it will be on saturday october 6th. this weekend will be a busy week with fleet week. the usual event like the flyovers and there are some new yvette's. also all the bay area will host a the race. there is more than giants are back in town and they will be plane on saturday and sunday. also on sunday the 49ers are home and they will host the buffalo bills. even the calls will be watching. this is the bluegrass festival at golden gate park and a lot of people...
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energy is being produced to power our lives. while energy development comes with some risk, north america's natural gas producers are committed to safely and responsibly providing generations of cleaner-burning energy for our country, drilling thousands of feet below fresh water sources within self-contained well systems. and, using state-of-the-art monitoring technologies, rigorous practices help ensure our operations are safe and clean for our communities and the environment. we're america's natural gas. these are sandra's "homemade" yummy, scrumptious bars. hmm? i just wanted you to eat more fiber. chewy, oatie, gooeyness... and fraudulence. i'm in deep, babe. you certainly are. [ male announcer ] fiber one. i'm in deep, babe. you certainly are. you see us, at the start of the day. on the company phone list that's a few names longer. you see us bank on busier highways. on once empty fields. everyday you see all the ways all of us at us bank are helping grow our economy. lending more so companies and communities can expand, gr
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let's broaden the world's energy mix. let's go. have more fiber than other leading brands. they're the better way to enjoy your fiber. can your moisturizer do that? [ female announcer ] dermatologist recommended aveeno has an oat formula, now proven to build a moisture reserve, so skin can replenish itself. that's healthy skin for life. only from aveeno. >>> carb lovers get ready to celebra celebrate. eating the right kinds of carbs could help with weight loss. what are the right kinds of carbs. elie creager shows us in this daily dose. >> there is a study in the journal of the american medical association that shows that neither very low carbohydrate diets or very high carbohydrate diets are ideal. eat good carbs in the right amounts. when you do so according to the study, you could be burning more calories and healthier at same time. what are good carbs? basically carbohydrates come from a variety of foods, not just breads and starches. good carbs come from whole fruits and vegetables, all different colors, and you want to make sure half of your plate is fruits and vegeta
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energy programs. we are already cooperating with the chinese. keep our markets open. but do not create a more hostile environment that is essential. is is important we keep a balance in the region. there is a line between balancing provocation and we want to stay on the side of balance and a constructive environment. >> i was surprised to hear you say that the comments made by both candidates, you used the term deplorable. i know you have endorsed mitt romney. have you had that conversation with him? abbey said i find your comments deplorable? -- have you said i find your comments deplorable? [laughter] >> i see these advertisements for the candidates are debating with each other on how to deal with the cheating of china. both used the word cheat. it may be that in china they do not understand and i am bothered by the fact that appealing to china -- it does not affect my feeling of the canada. >> mitt romney has also talked about labelling china as a currency manipulator. would that be productive? i w
energy programs. we are already cooperating with the chinese. keep our markets open. but do not create a more hostile environment that is essential. is is important we keep a balance in the region. there is a line between balancing provocation and we want to stay on the side of balance and a constructive environment. >> i was surprised to hear you say that the comments made by both candidates, you used the term deplorable. i know you have endorsed mitt romney. have you had that...
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the superior energy company said profits will be lower than expected. don't like that. down 5%. the drug maker maker antares. and down. and metropcs. confirmed that it's in talk with t-mobile unit for possible merger and the stock has gone straight up recently. down a bit today. best buy's founder moving forward on a possible 11 billion dollars buyout plan. that stock is up again. there you have it, 7 early movers, most up and they're mixed and the dow industrials are now down 9 points. michigan, the newest battle ground state for the unions. and next month whether or not to put union rights and power directly into the state constitution. coming up next we have a man for you who fought municipal unions and helped run the state of new york, richard ravage, he says new york's system and did it head to head with the unions. what does he think of the michigan union power grab? we will ask. [ male announcer ] at scottrade, we believe the more you know, the better you trade. so we have ongoing webinars and interactive learning, plus, in-branch seminars at over 500 locations, where our
the superior energy company said profits will be lower than expected. don't like that. down 5%. the drug maker maker antares. and down. and metropcs. confirmed that it's in talk with t-mobile unit for possible merger and the stock has gone straight up recently. down a bit today. best buy's founder moving forward on a possible 11 billion dollars buyout plan. that stock is up again. there you have it, 7 early movers, most up and they're mixed and the dow industrials are now down 9 points....
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whether it's tax reform, how we lower energy costs, how we lower health care costs, that's going to be an important question that governor romney poses. and essentially offer people that haven't made up their mind yet during this election the clear choice and contrast that with the failed record of the obama administration. >> kevin, i want to get to some of the specifics on the issues. first i want to ask you about that video jan just showed in her piece, a speech obama made in 2007 covered by all of the networks who had reporter there is at the time. >> right. >> do you think that video is relevant? >> i think a lot of people -- voters have to make that up, look at that video and make up their mind on that individually. i thenk what's more important to this debate right now are the president's policies, the president's record over the past four years. that's going to be the most important topic on stage tonight. >> but kevin as you know -- >> the president's record on the economy and putting people back to work. that hasn't happened over the past four years. that's the more important
whether it's tax reform, how we lower energy costs, how we lower health care costs, that's going to be an important question that governor romney poses. and essentially offer people that haven't made up their mind yet during this election the clear choice and contrast that with the failed record of the obama administration. >> kevin, i want to get to some of the specifics on the issues. first i want to ask you about that video jan just showed in her piece, a speech obama made in 2007...
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the underlying issues that have led for wages to go down, for a health care system that is broken, energy policies that are not working, because 10 days ago, john said they are sound. the fundamentals of the economy. >> say to him? [laughter] >> john, 10 days ago, you said the fundamentals of the economy were good. >> are you afraid i would not hear him? >> i am trying to get you to talk to each other. >> unless we are holding ourselves accountable day in and day out, not just where there is a crisis for folks who have power and influence and to hire lobbyists, but for the nurse, the teacher, the police officer who, at the end of each month, they have a financial crisis going on. they will have to take out extra debt to make their mortgage payments. we have not been paying attention to them. >> professor alan schroeder, your take away. >> in 2008, the campaigns negotiated an agreement that allowed them to talk to each other. they did not want to do it. you see jim is trying to pull teeth to get them to talk to each other. i do a lot of research on televised campaigns around the world. the
the underlying issues that have led for wages to go down, for a health care system that is broken, energy policies that are not working, because 10 days ago, john said they are sound. the fundamentals of the economy. >> say to him? [laughter] >> john, 10 days ago, you said the fundamentals of the economy were good. >> are you afraid i would not hear him? >> i am trying to get you to talk to each other. >> unless we are holding ourselves accountable day in and day...
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